Wednesday, January 19, 2011

developers of the month

sadly, this month has been pretty quiet for the project

but not completely quiet thanks to some new developers that are starting to code for emesene 2 and helping us improve it.

thanks to Andrea Stagi, j0hn and sbte for their help!

this shows that people can start helping with small improvements and move to more complex ones once they get used to the code.

what are you waiting?

Thursday, December 30, 2010

an idea

build a couchdb backend for the logger module in emesene 2 so you can have log synchronization between machines.

one step further:

document the design and make it generic for any IM client so people can store all their chat logs in the same database.

know some python and SQL and want to help?

if you want to help but you don't want to learn about emesene structure and know some python and SQL then you can help.

build a script that imports the logs from emesene 1 SQLite schema to the schema in emesene 2 SQLite log format.

this would be really helpful and may help some people to migrate to emesene 2.

Wednesday, December 08, 2010

updated instructions for windows users (still no package)

I tryied to make the msn backend work on windows and I updated the instructions on the readme in emesene.

the new stuff is related to the papyon backend for msn that now is the only supported backend and has some dependencies (OpenSSL, pyCrypto) and those need to be installed.

to make both instructions similar I recommend that you download and install msysgit from here:

http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/

and follow the instructions from here:

http://emesene-msn.blogspot.com/2010/10/instructions-for-testers.html

until you downloaded emesene code and updated the submodules, then follow the instructions in the INSTALL_WINDOWS.txt file here is an updated version:

https://github.com/marianoguerra/emesene/blob/master/INSTALL_WINDOWS.txt

I got emesene to run using papyon with this setup but the portable version gave me protocol error, if you can find the way to fix it it would be great.

still waiting for packages...

EDIT: I forgot to add one instruction, before running python setup.py py2exe you need to copy the papyon folder that is in emesene/emesene/e3/papylib/papyon/papyon to emesene/emesene/papyon, something like:

cp -r emesene/emesene/e3/papylib/papyon/papyon emesene/emesene/

to avoid the import error trying to load papyon.

Saturday, November 20, 2010

friendly reminder

we need developers! (we really do, please help us!)
we need testers (better if they try to help us to fix the problems they find :)
we need packagers! (windows packagers are the most important right now)
report bugs here: https://github.com/emesene/emesene/issues
docs here: http://emesene.org/docs/ (ask for more documentation on a topic if you need it)
spread the word about this post!

kthxbye

Wednesday, November 03, 2010

call for windows users

you want to collaborate? have windows installed and want to play a little with emesene 2?

then help us!

we need to bundle pywebkitgtk on windows to use adium themes in the conversation window.

I tried to make it work today but I couldn't, if you want to play and try to make it work, if you do document the steps so we can update the installer guide.

we will give you some rounds of applause for making something really useful for the project.

this site http://opensourcepack.blogspot.com/2009/12/pywebkitgtk-windows-binary.html seems to have the libraries needed, I downloaded the files and could run a demo browser that comes with it, but I couldn't make import webkit work, I got a dll loading error.

happy hacking!

Friday, October 29, 2010

Windows users, your turn

now that you have instructions on how to build installer and portable versions of emesene 2, I expect the best and most tested installer available in short time.

you asked for it, now you have it, make windows a first class citizen for emesene 2.

test it, fix the problems and provide up to date versions of emesene for your platform.

linux, *BSD users: what are you waiting to document how to package for your distro of choice and be at the level of windows?

if you have the steps documented, contact me so we can add them to the emesene repo and keep the updated versions where users can see them.

happy packaging!

Como generar archivos .exe e instaladores para una aplicación python (y pygtk)

Como generar archivos .exe e instaladores para una aplicación python

Este documento describe los pasos necesarios para crear un archivo ejecutable
de una aplicación python y como generar un instalador y una versión portable
para dicha instalación.

Este documento asume que la aplicación se basa en GTK pero debería funcionar
con menores cambios en otros toolkits.

porque un instalador

se requiere instalar muchos componentes a mano por el usuario final para una sola aplicación
muchos instaladores pequeños
difíciles de encontrar
difícil encontrar las versiones exactas que funcionan en conjunto
requiere instalarlos en un orden definido
rezar
algunas veces incluso haciendo todo bien puede no funcionar
fácil de automatizar y documentar para replicar con cada nueva versión
liberar al usuario final de los problemas para poder usar la aplicación

componentes requeridos

python
todas las librerías utilizadas por la aplicación
py2exe
nsis
tiempo y suerte

instaladores

aquí se listan los links a los instaladores de todos los componentes usados en el ejemplo.

orden de instalación

algunos instaladores son independientes de otros, pero para evitar posibles problemas recomiendo la instalación en el siguiente orden.

python
gtk-runtime
gtk2-themes
nsis
pygobject
pycairo
pygtk
pywin32
py2exe

tareas extra

setear la variable de entorno PATH para agregar el path a la instalación de python
probar la instalación con una pequeña aplicación gtk

>>> import gtk
>>> w = gtk.Window()
>>> l = gtk.Label("asd")
>>> w.add(l)
>>> w.show_all()
>>> gtk.main()

prueba con una aplicación de ejemplo

Cree un repositorio con una aplicación de ejemplo para probar los pasos, la aplicación esta disponible en github acá:

http://github.com/marianoguerra/PyGtkOnWindows

pasos

descargarla
descomprimirla
ejecutar python setup.py py2exe
copiar los directorios lib y share de la instalación del runtime de gtk (no de la instalación de pygtk) al directorio dist
copiar todos los archivos del directorio dll al directorio dist
borrar los locales y temas no usados de los directorios copiados a dist (yo solo dejo el theme MS-Windows)
crear la siguiente estructura de directorios dentro de dist: etc/gtk-2.0
dentro de ese directorio crear un archivo llamado gtkrc con una linea como la siguiente dentro:
- gtk-theme-name = "MS-Windows"
- podes cambiar el tema usado manteniendo otro theme dentro de share/themes y cambiando el nombre del theme en gtkrc
right click en ejemplo.nsi y seleccionar "Compile NSIS Script"
right click en ejemplo-portable.nsi y seleccionar "Compile NSIS Script"
deberías tener el instalador y la versión portable disponibles
para probar que funciona correctamente, correr el instalador y la versión portable en una instalación de windows sin los paquetes que instalaste anteriormente

probar con una aplicación real

ahora para sentirlo mas real, creemos un instalador y una versión portable de
un programa real, en este caso, un proyecto personal llamado emesene 2
(http://www.emesene.org/).

pasos

descargarlo de http://github.com/emesene/emesene
descomprimirlo
copiar setup.py and ez_setup.py al directorio emesene
cd emesene
correr python setup.py py2exe
cd ..
copiar los directorios lib y share de la instalación del runtime de gtk (no de la instalación de pygtk) al directorio dist
copiar todos los archivos del directorio dll al directorio dist
borrar los locales y temas no usados de los directorios copiados a dist (yo solo dejo el theme MS-Windows)
crear la siguiente estructura de directorios dentro de dist: etc/gtk-2.0
dentro de ese directorio crear un archivo llamado gtkrc con una linea como la siguiente dentro:
- gtk-theme-name = "MS-Windows"
- podes cambiar el tema usado manteniendo otro theme dentro de share/themes y cambiando el nombre del theme en gtkrc
right click en emesene.nsi y seleccionar "Compile NSIS Script"
right click en emesene-portable.nsi y seleccionar "Compile NSIS Script"
deberías tener el instalador y la versión portable disponibles
para probar que funciona correctamente, correr el instalador y la versión portable en una instalación de windows sin los paquetes que instalaste anteriormente

notas

obtengo algunos de los dlls requeridos de portable python (http://www.portablepython.com/) e inkscape (http://inkscape.org/)

How to generate .exe files and installers for a python (and pygtk) applications

How to generate .exe files and installers for a python applications

This document describes the steps required to create an executable file from a
python program and how to build an installer and portable file from that
application.

The document assumes that the application is based on GTK but it should work
with minor changes for other toolkits.

why an installer

many components are required to install by hand by the end user for a simple application
a lot of small installers
hard to find
hard to match the exact versions that work together
install them in the required order
pray
sometimes even doing everything right it may not work
easy to automate and document to replicate with each new version
free the end user from problems to use the app

required components

python
all the libraries used by the application
py2exe
nsis
time and luck ;)

installers

here are listed the links to the installers of all the components used in the example.

installation order

some installers are independent from the others, but to avoid posible problems I recommend the installation in this order.

python
gtk-runtime
gtk2-themes
nsis
pygobject
pycairo
pygtk
pywin32
py2exe

extra tasks

set the PATH environment variable to add the path to the python installation
test that the installation works with a simple gtk application

>>> import gtk

>>> w = gtk.Window()
>>> l = gtk.Label("asd")
>>> w.add(l)
>>> w.show_all()
>>> gtk.main()

test with a sample application

I created a repository with a sample application to test the steps, the application is available in github here:

http://github.com/marianoguerra/PyGtkOnWindows

steps

download it
unpack it
run python setup.py py2exe
copy the lib and share directory from the gtk runtime installation (not the pygtk installation) to the dist directory
copy all the files from the dll directory to the dist directory
remove unused locales and unused themes (I keep only ms theme)
create the following dirs inside dist: etc/gtk-2.0
inside that create a file called gtkrc with a line like this inside:
- gtk-theme-name = "MS-Windows"
- you can change the theme by keeping that theme inside share/themes and changing the name in gtkrc
right click on ejemplo.nsi and select "Compile NSIS Script"
right click on ejemplo-portable.nsi and select "Compile NSIS Script"
you should have the installer and portable versions available
to test that it works correctly, run the installer and portable versions in a windows installation without the packages you installed previously

test with a real application

now to make it feel more real let's create an installer and portable versions
for a real world program, in this case, a project of mine called emesene 2
(http://www.emesene.org/).

steps

download it from http://github.com/emesene/emesene
unpack it
copy setup.py and ez_setup.py to the emesene directory
cd to emesene
run python setup.py py2exe
cd ..
copy the lib and share directory from the gtk runtime installation (not the pygtk installation) to the dist directory
copy all the files from the dll directory to the dist directory
remove unused locales and unused themes (I keep only ms theme)
create the following dirs inside dist: etc/gtk-2.0
inside that create a file called gtkrc with a line like this inside:
- gtk-theme-name = "MS-Windows"
- you can change the theme by keeping that theme inside share/themes and changing the name in gtkrc
right click on emesene.nsi and select "Compile NSIS Script"
right click on emesene-portable.nsi and select "Compile NSIS Script"
you should have the installer and portable versions available
to test that it works correctly, run the installer and portable versions in a windows installation without the packages you installed previously

notes

I get some needed dlls from portable python (http://www.portablepython.com/) and inkscape (http://inkscape.org/)

Monday, October 25, 2010

it's coming

emesene 2 on windows :D

right now I have the installer and portable versions available, I need to test them some more.

if you really want to test it, follow the instructions in INSTALL_WINDOWS.txt and become the windows mantainer ;).

Sunday, October 24, 2010

maybe I forgot, where to report bugs/problems/requests

I think I never mentioned where to report bugs, problems or request features.

we are using the issue tracker of github:

http://github.com/emesene/emesene/issues

please check that your issue isn't already reported by someone else.

if you want to help us you could try to solve some of the issues.

instructions for testers

first of all a warning: the ppa is currently outdated in relation to the git repository, if you want to test you will have to use the git repo, below are instructions on how to do it.

if someone can help us setting up a daily updated ppa it would be great!

how to get the latest version of emesene 2 from git:

first install git (instruction for debian based distros here)

sudo apt-get install git-core

clone emesene 2 from git

git clone http://github.com/emesene/emesene.git

init and update submodules

cd emesene
git submodule init
git submodule update

from time to time update from the repo

git pull origin master
git submodule update

with that you should have the latest development version and updated when you need it.

to run do

cd emesene
./emesene

happy usage!

qt frontend and problems connecting

hi, lot of people seem to have problems connection with papyon backend in emesene 2.

if you have this problems try selecting the e3.msn session in the login window clicking the preference button that is at the bottom right corner of the window. Or you can also use it with gtalk or facebook (a little more experimental backends).

I would also like to introduce a new sub project inside emesene 2, Whisky84 started working on a qt4 frontend for emesene 2, the code is located here: http://github.com/Whisky84/emesene

warning, this is in heavy development, only try it if you are a developer and want to help him

thanks to Whisky84!

the message I saw yesterday is that we need testers, yes we need them but we also really need developers to help us, so run that message too!

thanks all of the people that helped since yesterday!

Saturday, October 23, 2010

we need a release and we need it now, and we need help!

with some time to use on my projects I decided to give emesene 2 a renewed push to try to make it deserve the label of beta.

I started fixing issues, closing duplicated, confusing or out of date issues and I only was left with feature requests and papyon bugs. That means two things:

emesene 2 is pretty stable
and/or nobody is using it

that means that we need users using it and since emesene 1.x is in maintainance only mode, we need to start moving users and developers to emesene 2. This means that you, your friends and your cat should be using/testing/developing emesene 2. I think that if we don't make the transition to emesene 2 both emesene 1 and 2 will stall and go the way of the dodo.

this is a call for action, start spreading the word, looking for users/testers/developers/packagers

we need all of those and more important we need developers and packagers to get to the release of emesene 2.

at this point emesene 2 is at feature parity with what was the emesene 1.0 release and it is more customizable, extensible and stable than emesene 1.0 was on the release date.

what I'm trying to say? if we keep waiting for emesene 2 to pass the features of emesene 1.6.3 we will never make a release. It's time to focus on the core features and stabilize. Later with a stable release people will start to help with fixes, plugins and extensions but a forever alpha doesn't help nobody.

since yesterday was capslock day I will say it like it deserves to be said

WE NEED HELP NOW!

start working on making emesene 2 the most awesome IM client on earth now!

here is a picture of a panda to motivate you, if this doesn't help I don't know what will...

Wednesday, September 15, 2010

long time no see

hi, back from some busy months, I just wanted to show you how awesome extensions are, for that I built an extension to make the input box in the conversation window as minimal as it can be.

This shows how customizable emesene can be and how easy is to modify any part of emesene with an extension.

less talk more screenshots:

as you can see I changed the config to hide all stuff that was in the way to get a minimal look and feel.

how hard was it to add a new input box extension?

48 lines of code

yep, that easy.

now go and tell your friends that emesene 2 is developer friendly and help us make the most awesome, good looking, customizable and extensible IM client on earth!

Saturday, July 03, 2010

another one

some new features

* remember group expand/collapse state
* adium output font formatting
* options to allow smaller icons in conversation toolbar
* dialogs are modal to avoid opening multiple instances of the same dialog

Wednesday, June 30, 2010

emesene 1.6.2 installer and portable available for windows

the 1.6.2 release of emesene has now both installer and portable versions for windows.

grab them in the download section

Sunday, June 27, 2010

some documentation

now you don't have excuses to start hacking

emesene documentation

ask for more topics, I will try to cover them.

Friday, June 04, 2010

Documentation on the way

In order to make it easy for newcomers to contribute to emesene 2 I'm creating documentation about the code structure, code guidelines and tools we use.

I would like to ear what kind of documentation would you like to see and would be useful.

please comment

Pages

Wednesday, January 19, 2011

Thursday, December 30, 2010

Wednesday, December 08, 2010

Saturday, November 20, 2010

Wednesday, November 03, 2010

Friday, October 29, 2010

Como generar archivos .exe e instaladores para una aplicación python

porque un instalador

componentes requeridos

instaladores

orden de instalación

tareas extra

prueba con una aplicación de ejemplo

pasos

probar con una aplicación real

pasos

notas

How to generate .exe files and installers for a python applications

why an installer

required components

installers

installation order

extra tasks

test with a sample application

steps

test with a real application

steps

notes

Monday, October 25, 2010

Sunday, October 24, 2010

Saturday, October 23, 2010

Wednesday, September 15, 2010

Saturday, July 03, 2010

Wednesday, June 30, 2010

Sunday, June 27, 2010

Friday, June 04, 2010